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meslefectra : What Govement have to get in to get the death penalty in the united kingdom
or does the people or the queen say if we can have the death penalty in this country this county's getting worse pedo rapist murders the Criminal get more help then the victim does in this country with there Hunan rights it's disgusting when. Will are country be safe from murders pedo child murders rapist why should they cost use money to keep them safe from the parents that want them dead and eye for an eye what is wrong with the govement giving there bad people on injection there dead that can't cost as much keeping them in prison keeping them Alive. We got a good DNA in this country so they can be found guilty better then they did in the 80s and so on what do this country have to do to get the death penalty

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ylmkskevmzx : I prefer to let the worst people suffer for many, many years in prison. So many commit suicide that death seems too easy an escape for them. It's government, United Kingdom, criminal, human, us, they're, alive. Not to mention your grammar.
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Enginisseve : I would prefer the return of Hard Labour. Make the bastards suffer for the 20 or whatever year terms of imprisonment they get.

No soft beds, basic covers, hessian or dense wool clothing that itches like crazy, having to work hard all day, with basic food that is just enough to get by on. No pool tables, games or Tv's etc. Any refusal to comply should be met with swift and severe retaliation.

Human rights should not be afforded to the incarcerated.
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urbawibbona : Everyu country needs death penalty for some people
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mugonitok : Some utter rubbish lifted directly form the Daily MAIL it seems.
See these people
Guildford 4 ; Birmingham 6; Stefan Kiszko; Raphael George Rowe; Michael George Davis; Randolph Egbert Johnson; Gilbert "Danny" McNamee; Ryan James; Jonathan Jones; Sheila Bowler ;Bridgewater Four; Peter Fell,; Steven Miller; Yusef Abdullahi; Tony Paris and many many more would be DEAD.

All are innocent of murder, but to satisfy your blood lust you'd happily see these innocent people killed.

What about Sally Clark, found guilty of killing not one but two of her children...both cot deaths but by the stupidity of the pediatrician and the lies from the crown pathologist she was originally found guilty. it took the Royal Statistical society and some expert to find out that they both sadly died from cot deaths and not killed by the mother.

People just don't understand how statistic works or probability.

If I told you that I was 1 in 100,000 people living in greater London area who could have committed a crime based on my DNA, that looks like compelling evidence except for 2 things,
1- that means up to 120 people could have committed the crime in greater london
2- someone from OUTSIDE LONDON could've committed the crime!

The death penalty was got rid of because of Derek Bentley and Ruth Ellis cases,look them up.
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rdrpxlnlne : People in the UK should look at the death penalty system in the US (where violent crime rates are much higher) before making up their minds on this question. Here's some of what to expect:

The worst thing about it. Errors:
The system can make tragic mistakes. As of now, 142 wrongly convicted people on death row have been exonerated. We’ll never know for sure how many people have been executed for crimes they didn’t commit. DNA is rarely available in homicides, often irrelevant and can’t guarantee we won’t execute innocent people.

Keeping killers off the streets for good:
Life without parole, on the books in most states, also prevents reoffending. It means what it says, and spending the rest of your life locked up, knowing you’ll never be free, is no picnic. Two big advantages:
-an innocent person serving life can be released from prison
-life without parole costs less than the death penalty

Costs, a big surprise to many people:
Study after study has found that the death penalty is much more expensive than life in prison. The process is much more complex than for any other kind of criminal case. The largest costs come at the pre-trial and trial stages. These apply whether or not the defendant is convicted, let alone sentenced to death.

Crime reduction (deterrence):
Homicide rates for states that use the death penalty are consistently higher than for those that don’t. The most recent FBI data confirms this. For people without a conscience, fear of being caught is the best deterrent. The death penalty is no more effective in deterring others than life sentences.

Who gets it:
The death penalty magnifies social and economic inequalities. It isn't reserved for the worst crimes, but for defendants with the worst lawyers. It doesn't apply to people with money. Practically everyone sentenced to death had to rely on an overworked public defender.

Like no other punishment, it subjects families of murder victims to a process which makes healing even harder. Even families who have supported it in principle have testified to the protracted and unavoidable damage that the death penalty process does to families like theirs and that life without parole is an appropriate alternative.

Edit: @Clive
Executions in the UK took place very soon after the actual sentence. This was the case in the US as well, until it became obvious that wrongly convicted people were being sentenced to death. The legal process has grown more and more complex both before trial and after conviction in an effort to avoid irreversible mistakes. Sadly, they still happen.
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gfrankp : Yes The UK needs the death penalty BUT along with that should be prosecutions for the police who with hold evidence or falsify evidence the big problem here is that The police,police the police so it is open to corruption
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wamyenganeumb : We are not allowed to have the death penalty as the EU prevents it. No country with the death penalty is allowed in the EU.

Meanwhile Parliament abolished it 48 years ago for numerous excellent reasons. Courts make mistakes far too often. You should look up the Derek Bentley case, a famous one that led to questioning the death penalty even more than it was being already. Bentley was posthumously pardoned but that's no good to him, is it?

If you think it deters crime, you are deluded. If deterrence by harsh sentencing worked, why are there still prisoners? US states that use the death penalty have a higher murder rate than those that don't, basically because it's largely the same ones that have more lax gun laws. Criminals don't think "oh, I'll get a really bad sentence so I won't do it". It doesn't work like that in the criminal mind. They're more likely to be planning to avoid getting caught at all, in which case it is irrelevant what the punishment is as they're planning not to get it. Which is why the best deterrent is more policing, creating the impression they're more likely to get caught.

Death is the easy way out. Life imprisonment means years and years to think about it and suffer for what you did. The suicide rate in prison is quite high and prison officers have to be careful watching out for prisoners who might harm themselves. Harold Shipman, the UK's worst mass murderer, killed himself in prison and so did Fred West. It was less painful to them than decades of prison.

Your last point on DNA is irrelevant. That's nothing to do with the death penalty, it's about catching criminals whatever their sentence might be.

This country is not getting worse. That's just your impression from sensationalist newspapers.

Susan S should recognise that the question of costs is irrelevant to the UK. When we had the death penalty, the prisoner was hanged at most six weeks later - no endless appeals as the US has. The sentence was set for three weeks after sentencing, traditionally to allow the prisoner three clear Sundays to make peace with God, plus a possible further three weeks to allow for the only possible appeals, to the Court of Criminal Appeal, the Home Secretary, and the Queen. It's the appeals that make the death penalty more expensive than life imprisonment in the US as on average they go on for ten years.
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Nhlnqhes : The British justice system focuses on reform and correction rather than punishment. Ultimately, it's based on our shared Christian cultural inheritance of forgiveness as opposed to revenge.
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seexboomi : Show me a legal system that'll guarantee never to wrongly convict an innocent person and then we can discuss giving the state the power to murder its own people.
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