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Ëåíèíà : I'm not defending crimes like murder or rape...I just don't like how people treat the death penalty.



If you read and article about a murder, and then read the comments, everyones saying things like, "Make him die a slow and painful death!", "I wanna kill this one myself!" and such.

And then the families are present at the execution...what really are they getting out of that?

I can just picture some soccer mom grinning while her kid's murderer is being lethally injected.

So in what way are these people better than the murderer? They're getting enjoyment out of watching his/her death.

To me that's just disgusting...just as disgusting as the original crime.

I wouldn't opt for using taxpayer money to keep them alive in prison...but prisons are too lavish. I don't see why we can't resort to Russian style prisons.
No, I don't have any kids...I just find "revenge" immature and revolting.
@ i see dead squirrels

I don't think it's the same...it's punishment, not murder. It's not like they're beaten and starved for entertainment in Russia. It's just a tougher, more solitary, prison setting.

I feel punishment is different than "revenge". Revenge is just nasty. It shows how disgusting ALL people are.
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tritdaddy : Your saying in that situation, you would not enjoy seeing the life of the person who killed your child disappearing? I'm not sure why it happens but I think in that situation, everybody would recieve enjoyment from it. Its revenge.
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Denizcan29 : Getting justice is nothing like the original crime - just nothing.
If someone killed my kid, I would want to watch them die too.
Maybe you don't have any kids?
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Syncpropypeg : I support it, because the small number of people we do kill means we don't have to try a great number of prisoners to get them accept life in prison.

As for your support of "russian style prisons," this is just the same cruel blood lust as you pretend to hate in others. You just prefer torture.

I haven't been to prison, but I know no one who has been to a no-nminimum security prison who claims they're too easy on prisoners.
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saiskenda : Because when we forget Nature and its ways...revenge and greed get the best of people....but the government don't care its all.about the money
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Immerearbed : I support it because the problem is dead, they won't do it again, we don't have to use taxpayers to feed them in jail, the victim/victims family has their revenge/justice, and we won't have to worry about another courtcase or crime when they get out of jail....because THEY'RE DEAD!!
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aZoTGwFg : The Old Testament supports the death penalty and so do I since the Old Testament supports it. It sure would clear out a good deal of our prisons and send them to their Creator for the Judgment Seat [Bema Seat]. If you accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior and repent of your sins to him you can avoid being judged by God at the Bema Seat. Also, a would be Soccer mom's reaction is not right. It is not right according to the New Testament to enjoy the death of a evil sinner. That is between her and God.
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poequeexpep : I support a QUICK execution in cases that warrant the death penalty. The primary difference between a murderer and an executioner is that in the later case, the person being killed has been legally convicted in a court of law. VERY few people get enjoyment out of watching an execution, but some get a sense of closure. That alone doesn't justify the death penalty, but explains those the knew the victim being present for the execution.
My personal preference for the means of execution is the Chinese method. A pistol to the base of the skull is quick and surprisingly clean.
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DrAmbrroose : For some people, but not for me, retribution and revenge justify it. Other people don't know enough about it.

The worst thing about it. Errors:
The system can make tragic mistakes. As of now, 142 wrongly convicted people on death row have been exonerated. We’ll never know for sure how many people have been executed for crimes they didn’t commit. DNA is rarely available in homicides, often irrelevant and can’t guarantee we won’t execute innocent people.

Keeping killers off the streets for good:
Life without parole, on the books in most states, also prevents reoffending. It means what it says, and spending the rest of your life locked up, knowing you’ll never be free, is no picnic. Two big advantages:
-an innocent person serving life can be released from prison
-life without parole costs less than the death penalty

Costs, a big surprise to many people:
Study after study has found that the death penalty is much more expensive than life in prison. The process is much more complex than for any other kind of criminal case. The largest costs come at the pre-trial and trial stages. These apply whether or not the defendant is convicted, let alone sentenced to death.

Crime reduction (deterrence):
Homicide rates for states that use the death penalty are consistently higher than for those that don’t. The most recent FBI data confirms this. For people without a conscience, fear of being caught is the best deterrent. The death penalty is no more effective in deterring others than life sentences.

Who gets it:
The death penalty magnifies social and economic inequalities. It isn't reserved for the worst crimes, but for defendants with the worst lawyers. It doesn't apply to people with money. Practically everyone sentenced to death had to rely on an overworked public defender.

Victims:
Like no other punishment, it subjects families of murder victims to a process which makes healing even harder. Even families who have supported it in principle have testified to the protracted and unavoidable damage that the death penalty process does to families like theirs and that life without parole is an appropriate alternative.

The death penalty comes down to retribution or revenge—the only plausible reasons to support it.
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victoriaeannyD : The Death Penalty: Justice & Saving More Innocents
Dudley Sharp

A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE PRO DEATH PENALTY SIDE OF THE DEBATE

The death penalty has a foundation in justice and it spares more innocent lives.

Anti death penalty arguments are either false or the pro death penalty arguments are stronger.

The majority populations of all countries, likely, support the death penalty for some crimes (1).

Why? Justice.

THE DEATH PENALTY: SAVING MORE INNOCENT LIVES

The Innocent Frauds: Standard Anti Death Penalty Strategy
and
THE DEATH PENALTY: SAVING MORE INNOCENT LIVES
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-innocent-frauds-standard-anti-death.html

OF COURSE THE DEATH PENALTY DETERS: A review of the debate
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/03/of-course-death-penalty-deters.html

MURDERERS MUCH PREFER LIFE OVER EXECUTION
99.7% of murderers tell us "Give me life, not execution"
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2012/11/life-much-preferred-over-execution.html


MORAL FOUNDATIONS FOR THE DEATH PENALTY

1) Immanuel Kant: "If an offender has committed murder, he must die. In this case, no possible substitute can satisfy justice. For there is no parallel between death and even the most miserable life, so that there is no equality of crime and retribution unless the perpetrator is judicially put to death.". "A society that is not willing to demand a life of somebody who has taken somebody else's life is simply immoral."

2) Pope Pius XII; "When it is a question of the execution of a man condemned to death it is then reserved to the public power to deprive the condemned of the benefit of life, in expiation of his fault, when already, by his fault, he has dispossessed himself of the right to live." 9/14/52.

3) John Murray: "Nothing shows the moral bankruptcy of a people or of a generation more than disregard for the sanctity of human life." "... it is this same atrophy of moral fiber that appears in the plea for the abolition of the death penalty." "It is the sanctity of life that validates the death penalty for the crime of murder. It is the sense of this sanctity that constrains the demand for the infliction of this penalty. The deeper our regard for life the firmer will be our hold upon the penal sanction which the violation of that sanctity merit." (Page 122 of Principles of Conduct).

4) John Locke: "A criminal who, having renounced reason... hath, by the unjust violence and slaughter he hath committed upon one, declared war against all mankind, and therefore may be destroyed as a lion or tyger, one of those wild savage beasts with whom men can have no society nor security." And upon this is grounded the great law of Nature, "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed." Second Treatise of Civil Government.

5) Jean-Jacques Rousseau: "In killing the criminal, we destroy not so much a citizen as an enemy. The trial and judgments are proofs that he has broken the Social Contract, and so is no longer a member of the State." (The Social Contract).

6) Saint (& Pope) Pius V: "The just use of (executions), far from involving the crime of murder, is an act of paramount obedience to this (Fifth) Commandment which prohibits murder." "The Roman Catechism of the Council of Trent" (1566).

3200 additional pro death penalty quotes
http://prodpquotes.info/

REBUTTAL: Common Anti Death Penalty Claims

1) THE 142 "EXONERATED" FRAUD

a) The 130 (now 142) death row "innocents" scam
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2009/03/04/fact-checking-issues-on-innocence-and-the-death-penalty.aspx

b) The "Innocent", the "Exonerated" and Death Row
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-innocent-exonerated-and-death-row_19.html

2) Saving Costs with The Death Penalty
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/02/death-penalty-cost-saving-money.html

3) RACE & THE DEATH PENALTY: A REBUTTAL TO THE RACISM CLAIMS
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2012/07/rebuttal-death-penalty-racism-claims.html

4) "Killing Equals Killing: The Amoral Confusion of Death Penalty Opponents"
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2013/02/19/murder-and-execution--very-distinct-moral-differences--new-mexico.aspx

5) "The Death Penalty: Neither Hatred nor Revenge"
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2009/07/20/the-death-penalty-neither-hatred-nor-revenge.aspx
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